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June 30, 2004 at 12:00 am #1304Gabriela BalParticipant
Dear Shawn
I just want to keep your words in my heart, and I will sleep in peace.
I embrace you with my Soul.
Gabriela
P.S I hope you understand my poor English and forgive my mistakes. For me it is very difficult to write in English because I love writing and I usually write very well in Portuguese. Then I feel disappointed that I cannot find words to say what I want to say. With you I think it would be different.
June 30, 2004 at 12:00 am #1264Shawn T MurphyParticipantDear Gabriela,
I hope that you can realize how happy my soul is, for having been able to reach your soul. No present that you could give me would be greater than this one. My soul wants to help others to find the Truth taught by Jesus. My greatest challenge is by maintaining a level of ‘sweet reasonableness’ that is worthy of His Truth.I am very excited about this new beginning for me; knowing that I have people like you yet to discover in my life!
Love Shawn
Ps. It is good that you have given to me your Jesus. He is much better off firmly in your heart than He is on paper.
July 1, 2004 at 12:00 am #1343Shawn T MurphyParticipantDear Gabriela,
Do not worry, I understand you perfectly. I do not underestimate you either; anyone who can harvest such wisdom from Plotinus is very intelligent!I really enjoyed your paper and would like to publish it on my Origenes2000.Org website. Would you want to do that? If so, please email the paper, in English and Portuguese, and I can publish both of them. I have asked the other presenters (those who’s papers I think have a good connection with Origenes) to send me their papers also. I will create a place for these on the site.
You and your son are in my prayers and my heart.
Love ShawnJuly 3, 2004 at 12:00 am #1305Gabriela BalParticipantDear Shawn
How are you? I am just trying to “arrive” here.
I think that I am beginning something that I really do not know. A glimpse a new horizon and I don’t know what will happen in my life. You said something about a new beginning… Now I feel less solitary, not only because I have met you, but because I found my place, or a new place for me. As you know I am looking forward this “nowhere” in Plotinus thought and I know I should now walk everywhere to find this ” nowhere”.
When I was on the plane, above the ocean, I thought about you and our meeting and I understood that I have “my Plotinus” and you have “your Origen” but fortunately they have had the same master, Amonius Saccas. So we have the same master, but not only him. We are in the middle, together with Plotinus and Origen, and we share Jesus. I have no words to say what I felt when I understood this.
I am happy that you enjoyed my paper and wish to publish it on your website in English and also in Portuguese. I ask you only a few days to revise the paper. I will send it for you next week, OK? I enjoyed this idea because it is the first time that we can realize something together. And I hope this is only a beginning of a something bigger, bigger than you and me. Something that does not belong to me or to you, something we don’t want to do, but we have to do. We should share our knowledge as it is not ours. I thank you for this opportunity.
Thanks for your prayers.
Love Gabriela
July 4, 2004 at 12:00 am #1344Shawn T MurphyParticipantDear Gabriela,
I am so happy that you seen that this is bigger than me and you. Ye we are both connected to something bigger than we can imagine; the restoration work of Jesus. Yes, Jesus came to restore His lost people back to Heaven, but He is not alone in this effort. Every Angel is helping Him do His work. The Prophets that came in advance of Jesus were some of His highest Angels. Gabriel, Raphael, and Michael all came to earth to teach us about Jesus and to prepare the way for Him.We have the ability to be a tiny part of this huge effort. If we are a ‘good tool’ for Him, then His Angles will guide us, and show us the way to be most helpful for them. If we are a ‘bad tool’ He will discard us and look for another.
Yes, we are small….
Yes, we share knowledge that is not ours, but His….
Yes, we do not know where we are going, but this does not matter because we are being guided by His Will. Our job is to work hard, with a pure heart and as long as we do that, His Angels will guide us. We do not need to know the future or worry about the past; we must 1) Ask for forgiveness and forget the past, 2) work hard, with an open heart and mind, taking the suggestions that come from our heart 3) Do not think about the future, but have faith that you are being guided by the strongest hands in Heaven. Yes, we do not search the world for the silence, but recognize that it in our soul.Eight years ago I had the same feelings that you have just described to me. It has taken them a long time to mold me into a usable tool. I had much pride to eliminate. I had to stop longing to know the future. I had much humility to learn. (And still do!)
I am very excited that I have been introduced to you. I do not know what it is that we are supposed to be doing together, but I have faith that we are guided from the same, strong hand. As long as we clean up our soul from our vices, His Angels will want to take up residence in us. They will not take residence in a dirty soul.
Have a wonderful day and be strengthened by the thought that you are not alone in your silence, but strengthened through your silent resolve by His Angels. And through your silence you open your ears to their soft voices.
Love Shawn
July 6, 2004 at 12:00 am #1306Gabriela BalParticipantDear Shawn,
I loved your last e-mail, but unfortunately I could not answer it until now because I had problems with my computer.
I would like to say something that I really do not know… Today I feel strange!
I have begun writing my PhD Project and I am happy because I entered again on Plotinus’ thought. Tomorrow I will have an appointment with my new supervisor and I am very excited because he is a person like you and me. When I work on Plotinus everything changes, especially me. I do not know what will happen now. It is a beginning, a new beginning…
It is good to know that you are near me.
Love Gabriela
July 6, 2004 at 12:00 am #1345Shawn T MurphyParticipantDear Gabriela,
It makes me so happy that you at a new beginning. I have said goodbye to Suzanne and Shana tonight for the summer and I have started on my summer work. I hope that it can become what I hope that it can. We will see.We have so much ahead of us, and I am so happy that you, Suzanne and Shana are behind me in my work; it is too much to ask for. Saying goodbye to my wife for the summer was hard, but she knows that what I am doing is for the good of Jesus’ work. I hope that I can live up to this expectation.
Love ShawnJuly 7, 2004 at 12:00 am #1307Gabriela BalParticipantDear Shawn
I hope you can do your work, your summer work as you want, and as it is possible. I want to ask you one thing… What is a summer work? Are you traveling? Where are you going? And what you are going to do now?
I am happy because you ‘set me’ (I don’t know if this is the right word) together with Suzanne and Shana behind you. I will be with you wherever you are, in my heart and in my soul.
Love Gabriela
July 7, 2004 at 12:00 am #1346Shawn T MurphyParticipantDear Gabriela,
Your words are so kind and I thank you for them. My “summer work” will be to start on a dialog in the tradition of Plato with three others. Andrew McCarthy MD (the doctor) and Edward Moore (the scholar) from the conference will be joining me (the engineer) and Bishop Ewen (the priest) here in Bermuda in “A Dialog towards the Truth”.We hope to collectively write a book that discusses the most difficult questions of philosophy and religion with the goal of getting people to think about them in greater depth; and with the help of Socrates and Origen to be able to give them ideas about how these great people viewed these issues.
I wish you luck and strength in your PhD work and have fun in your return to Plotinus!
Love ShawnJuly 9, 2004 at 12:00 am #1308Gabriela BalParticipantDear Shawn,
How nice you are doing this on your summer work: “A Dialog towards the Truth”. Please, when it will be possible, try to tell me what you are doing because I am actually interested in this dialogue, as you know. And I would like to join you even at distance.
I think that now your are very busy and I shall not disturb you work and concentration.
Love Gabriela
July 10, 2004 at 12:00 am #1309Gabriela BalParticipantDear Shawn,
I am happy because I could feel your light shinning when I read this e-mail. I had the impression that something special happened to you today and you could share it with me as you did in Liverpool.
I have a beautiful story to tell you… it is the history of the conversion of a friend of mine, Dani. I met her yesterday and we will meet again tomorrow. It is difficult to explain what I feel about her conversion to Jesus. We are like cousins because our mothers are friends, really good friends since they were adolescents and we grew toghether. Well, she asked me to be her godmother. It is the first time I will be a godmother, and Dani is so close in my heart!
Tomorrow I will meet her godfather, his name is Frei (Father) Beto, he is a priest. He has a beautiful story and I will tell you tomorrow after I have met him. He sent me one of his books saying: Gabriela, embrace This Man’s (Jesus) Cause. (I think I could not translate his words exactly). The book’s name is “Among all men” (I think I could not translate the name exactly) and
it is a version of Jesus’ life. When I read this I remembered you and the way we embrace Jesus. It is a wonderful thing to share Jesus’ life, isn’t it?Love Gabriela
July 10, 2004 at 12:00 am #1347Shawn T MurphyParticipantDear Gabriela,
I will be happy to keep you included in our dialog, but do not think that I am to busy to talk to you. I am always happy to connect to your soul and to get a glimpse of your light. Lene, our spiritual teacher, once said that we should imagine the following: “I am a sun of God, and I ask for His Light to shine down on me and I let His Light shine out to all of those around me.” I have a good image of this in my head, and when I walk down the street I ask God to let His Light shine out to all who I pass along the way. It is His Light that you saw in me in Liverpool and it is His Light that connects us always.Good luck on your work and may God’s Light fill you, your daughter and your son.
Love ShawnJuly 11, 2004 at 12:00 am #1310Gabriela BalParticipantDear Shawn,
I imagine have understood what you are talking about and I agree with you. I don’t like this word “convert”(verb). For me conversion is something that occurs independent of our will. Nobody can convert others. It happens… So I do not like this missionary’s church work all over the world.
Dani would have a lot of work to do on herself to “Love thy neighbor as thyself”. And I will try to be near her as I can.
I understand perfectly what you are talking about church and prayer as I feel the same. Perhaps they are wasting words and time. I do try to center myself on the most important thing there. Some times it is difficult but I try to find places where I feel the God’s presence in spite of the people. I do not know how to explain this but I can say that it is possible.
But you can ask me why so much effort. I would answer that you can do the same. Remember what you told me yesterday about walking down the street. You can shine your light for others even in a church.
Everyone has his own way to go through. You don’t need to be among others to pray, then stay alone. This is good!!! But don’t hide your light. I felt your presence among others and this connected us.
Love Gabriela
July 11, 2004 at 12:00 am #1348Shawn T MurphyParticipantDear Gabriela,
It is certainly a big step to convert from the Jewish faith to the Christian. The step to Christianity is important, but what you do after is much more important. I have met very few christians who can follow the basic law: “Love thy neighbor as thyself. Yes it is the hardest law to keep, but most “christians” break it everyday.I was in church today. It is not something that I do often because there are so many things that disturb me. I am sending you a copy of the letter that I just sent to the priest of the church regarding prayer. It disturbs me that they send so much time praying for everything under the sun and telling God what to do about it. It is amazing how little energy is created through prayer in a church full of people!
Have a nice week.
Love ShawnJuly 12, 2004 at 12:00 am #1349Shawn T MurphyParticipantDear Gabriela,
Yes, this was the lesson that Liverpool and you taught me. I must get out and let my light shine. God did not put me here to hide it away from others. My light is what makes our office environment so peaceful. No one can put there finger on why, but they do notice when I am not here. Even if I do not say a word all day long to anyone, they notice.I have felt the presence of God around me even when I am walking down 5th Avenue in New York with millions around me. Yes, I do know that this is possible and I am grateful for my Guardian Angel’s presence with me especially at these times.
Thank you so much for your kind words, and do not worry, I understand everything that you are trying to say. We are connected and I am curious to find out one day exactly why, but that can wait!
Love Shawn -
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